Marvel's Dan Slott Argues Against Spider-Man Making Certain Quips to Avoid Mocking Readers
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Spider-Rant:
It bugs me when Spider-Fans say that Spidey ONLY uses his jokes/quips to "disorient his foes".That is 1 way Spidey uses his sense of humor.
Spider-Man's sense of humor is one of his most versatile tools in his arsenal. It's practically one of his super powers.
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— Dan Slott (@DanSlott) August 8, 2020
prevnext...and, of course, to goof around and bond w/ his fellow super heroes. (Even though most of them don't really find him all that funny.) :)
Trust me. There are a zillion ways that Spidey uses his sense of humor in every story. It's not *just* for getting on bad guys' nerves.
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— Dan Slott (@DanSlott) August 8, 2020
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prevnextOne problem with Spidey's jokes over the years...
— Dan Slott (@DanSlott) August 8, 2020
A lot of them do NOT age well.
Like all the fat-shaming jokes he's made to Kingpin and Doc Ock.
Or the joke he makes to Bonesaw in the first SPIDER-MAN movie.
That was not good. Almost feel like it should come with a disclaimer.
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prevnextYup. I had Doc Ock comment on that MANY times. He's basically a bully.
— Dan Slott (@DanSlott) August 8, 2020
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It's not about feeling bad for Kingpin, it's about feeling bad for the overweight kid who's a Spider-Man fan and reading the book.
Same way the Bonesaw gag in the first Spider-Man movie might have made kids in the audience feel bad about themselves. https://t.co/TZouD8ZkHW
— Dan Slott (@DanSlott) August 9, 2020
prevnextLet's be clear, if these very specific kinds of jokes (ones about innate traits that young readers might share: body image, sexual identity, for example) were no longer made by Spidey (not Deadpool, Hellblazer, or whoever, just Spidey), you wouldn't miss them. Why? See next post.
— Dan Slott (@DanSlott) August 16, 2020
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99.99% of Spidey's mocking quips to villains are:
Making fun of their costume
Making fun of their name
Making fun of what they just said
Making fun of how loopy their master plan is
Making fun of the fact they're a LizardA lot of you are out here dying on a very small hill. pic.twitter.com/9KzPZjwsfP
— Dan Slott (@DanSlott) August 10, 2020
prevnextA hero like Spider-Man is expected to err on the side of kindness. Especially towards his young readers who look up to him.https://t.co/7HaNNA1Cm5
— Dan Slott (@DanSlott) August 9, 2020
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prevnextI don't think we're on different pages here on the main point you're making. I did a whole thread about it yesterday.
— Dan Slott (@DanSlott) August 9, 2020
I'm just saying why not avoid putting things in books that make young readers feel bad about who they are-- when you don't have to.https://t.co/b2pzatOYSI
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prevnextWould it be "censorship" if it were a character mocking someone for their race, sex, or sexual identity?
— Dan Slott (@DanSlott) August 9, 2020
Or would it be tolerance and understanding to realize that that's something Spidey shouldn't be doing in a Spider-Man comic?
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prevnextI don't think we should change old comics, just be thoughtful in how we make new ones. That's fair, right?
As for people being called things, my ancestors were called things ages ago, and society learned and (mostly) moved on. Hopefully we can keep moving forward on all fronts.
— Dan Slott (@DanSlott) August 16, 2020
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prevI'm pretty sure Spider-Man fans, out of all the fans out there, would be cool with this. Because, as a wise man once wrote:
"With great power there must also come great responsibility." pic.twitter.com/sv58dfvMu9
— Dan Slott (@DanSlott) August 16, 2020