Just a little over four decades ago, two Marvel Comics icons met for the very first time and began one of the most notable rivalries in comic history. I am, of course, speaking of the bad blood that exists between Daredevil and the Punisher. Whether youโve read one of their many confrontations in the comics or youโre more familiar with the times theyโve squared off in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, you know that Frank Castle and Matt Murdock donโt always see eye to eye. One has a strict code they abide by, while the other dispenses lethal justice.
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Granted, Daredevil and Punisher are more often than not on the same side. But Castleโs tendency to end criminalsโ lives clashes with Murdockโs faith in the system. Itโs hard for them to team up, but not impossible. But their ideological differences often have them butting heads. One does have to wonder, though, what it was like the first time these two met. Was there ever any chance that they could have been friends instead of rivals, or did that ship sail at the beginning? A look back at their first meeting reveals quite a bit about Daredevil and Punisherโs rivalry.
How a Drug Case United Punisher and Daredevil

On this day 44 years ago, Marvel Comics published Daredevil #183 by Roger McKenzie, Frank Miller, Klaus Janson, and Joe Rosen. Itโs a story that begins with the tragic death of Mary OโKoren, a girl who has overdosed on PCP. Her death infuriates her brother, Billy, who swears to avenge Mary. Knowing that Billy is going to try to take revenge on the drug pushers who supplied Mary with the drugs, Daredevil seeks them out first. He happens upon a trio of drug dealers and their supplier, Flapper, only for the dealers to try to attack Matt.
Thankfully, Daredevil isnโt the only one after the dealers. One of them is suddenly knifed in the back and falls over dead thanks to the Punisher, who enters the fray armed with a gun. Frank attacks the remaining drug dealers, but Daredevil does his best to save them from Punisher. Amid all the chaos, a gunshot from above takes out Flapper. Daredevil leaves to investigate, only to discover Billy, armed with a gun, though he protests his innocence. Matt takes on Billyโs case, but heโs concerned about the Punisher and asks his pal, Ben Urich, for information on the vigilante.
The Punisher and Daredevil have one last confrontation in this issue, which occurs when Matt is re-examining the crime scene. He spots Punisher beating up a drug user for information and puts an end to Castleโs interrogation. The two discuss their unique approaches to crime-fighting, and surprisingly, Punisher actually offers to work with Daredevil, saying that they could eliminate crime in New York together. But Matt flat-out refuses to work with Punisher, who shoots Daredevil with a tranquilizer dart. Punisher leaves the user he was interrogating for dead, but Matt manages to perform CPR and save his life.
Daredevil and Punisher’s First Meeting Defined Their Dynamic for Years

I donโt think it surprises anyone that these two were rivals from the get-go. Though they both believe in justice, Frank and Matt are just too different for them to ever get along. I will say, I am slightly floored at Punisher offering to be partners with Daredevil, but I feel like it weirdly fits. If thereโs one thing thatโs consistent with the Punisher, itโs that heโs always trying to convince the more morally firm heroes that thereโs only one true way to handle criminals. But Daredevil is just as consistent, never giving in to Frankโs way of doing things.
Punisher and Daredevil have met countless times since this issue, and plenty has changed for both heroes, from their outfits to their supporting characters. But whatโs never, and frankly, canโt change for them is their inability to see the other side. Thereโs something so incredibly interesting about Frank and Matt both being broken men who remade themselves in the wake of their tragedies, ending up as two sides of the same coin. Both vigilantes, but one who believes in a system greater than himself, and one who believes that change can only come from personal actions.
Itโs always interesting to look back at firsts like this. This issue defined what readers have come to know about Daredevil and Punisherโs feud. And while other comics have put their own spin on things, like Garth Ennisโ infamous โDaredevil shooting Punisherโ test, Daredevil #183 was the foundation for all future stories involving the two vigilantes. It established that they are both committed to cleaning up the streets and that, no matter what, they refuse to see any other way of doing things. Any Punisher or Daredevil fan owes it to themselves to check out the iconsโ first meeting.
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