Dragon Ball Super: Broly is now out all around the world, and generating a massive response from fans. The film has already set records for being a top-earner for the franchise, and both critics and fans have overwhelmingly loved what Broly brings to the table.
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Now that Dragon Ball fans are getting to see all the major retcons that Dragon Ball Super: Broly is making to the core franchise mythos, there’s a lot of buzz and discussion about what the future could bring. This being Dragon Ball and all, those discussions have to to include the usual updated wish-lists of battles that fans want to see between popular fighters – and there’s a pretty big one that seems to be at the forefront of discussion:
Broly vs. Jiren
Now that the movie is out…. WHO YโALL GOT? pic.twitter.com/3w9CdjEUHq
โ DH ANIMATIONS (@dhanimations) January 18, 2019
That’s right! The back-to-back events of theย Dragon Ball Superย anime and Dragon Ball Super: Brolyย feature film have fans thirsty for *the* big bout that’s now staring us all in the face: Brolyย vs. Jiren!
What makes this matchupย especially interesting is how the respective battle powers of both characters function:
Jirenย has a uniquely wilful focus on enhancingย strength as the greatest method of power-up. He was seen using almost Zen-like meditation as a power-boosting technique during Tournament of Power, as well as being able to break his limits through sheer force of will during his battle with Ultra Instinct Goku. Basically, Jirenย can get as strong as he wants to be, or feels he needs to, with no foreseeableย limit.ย
In the canonized context ofย Dragon Ball Super, Brolyย is revealed to basically have Super Saiyanย 4 abilities, as he’s able to channel the immense power of a Saiyanย Great Ape while still in his human form. Broly’sย battle intuitionย proves to be second-to-none, as he is able to continuouslyย jump to new levels of power during his battle with Goku and Vegetaย – and even more so in his full Super Saiyanย form. The catch is that like a Great Ape, Brolyย cannot maintain conscious control of himself when his power begins to skyrocket, making him a walking Weapon of Mass Destruction without any kind of leash.ย
The Main Question
Thisย debate basically boils down to this question for us:
Could Jirenย maintain focus and achieve power boosts with a relentlesslyย savage attack fromย Brolyย coming at him? Or would Jiren’sย focus, technique, and greater experience level allow him to counter Broly’sย raw power and aggression?ย
It’s a battle that could arguably go either way, given the circumstances – but as you can see below, fans already have some pretty strong opinions on this:ย
Experience Is the Best Teacher
Jiren obv his feats shown are better by miles than Broly’s
โ GoteXXX Uchiha (Shafted Ver.) (@GotexB) January 19, 2019
This fan clearly believes that Jirenย has the edge, thanks to his more extensive battle experience.ย Dragon Ball Super‘s “Universal Survival” Arc showed just what kind of effect Jirenย and his fellow Pride Troopers have had on Universe 11 –ย with hints of the sheer amount of evildoers that they’ve taken down along the way. Jirenย knows his way around the battlefield, and has the power to be the greatest warrior on it.ย
Potential Is the Best Power
Jiren been fighting all over the universe to get to his lvl, broly after his first fight(that isn’t his dad) surpassed god goku and vegeta so let him fight like 3 more battles he winning easily.
โ Antarius ?โ (@Tary1312) January 19, 2019
Other fans counter with the pointย that Brolyย showed such massive power and put up such a challenge forย Goku and Vegetaย that there should be no question about who would win in a fight with Jiren.
After all, Brolyย was able to prove more than a challenge than (non-fused) Gokuย and Vegeta, after they’d already fought in the Tournament of Power; therefore, Brolyย should also prove more than a match for the toughest fighter that Goku and Vegetaย faced in the ToP. It makes sense, no?ย
Gogeta Is Proof
Thereโs no need for three more battles when you need Blue Gogeta to step in the mix.
โ C.J. Moore (@Prince_Daygo) January 20, 2019
This fan points out that since Goku and Vegetaย had to fuse together into Gogetaย to beat Broly, but didn’t have to go to such lengths to beat Jiren, the matter should be settled.ย
Toriyama’s Plan
Couldโve sworn it was confirmed by Toriyama that Broly was stronger. Otherwise thereโd be no point in bringing him back? Now Goku has a way to find new strength by training with Broly. If Jiren remained stronger it would defeat the whole purpose of his quest for new limits
โ Saiyajin Rosรฉ ไบ (@briskizzyb) January 20, 2019
Dragon Ball Super: Brolyย SPOILERS below!
Dragon Ballย is all about power progression, and some fans think that the only reasonย Brolyย was finally imported into official canon was to serve as the road to Gokuย and/or Vegeta’sย next power-up. Therefore, it wouldn’t make sense for Jirenย to be more powerful than Broly.ย
Whis Factor
Broly cuz Iโm a Stan. But also because he has more potential and has never had formal training. Yet still fought 3 God tier skilled fighters. Let Whis train Broly for a week and see what happens.
โ Supersaiyanricoโก๏ธโก๏ธโก๏ธ (@LuckyLeftyy23) January 20, 2019
The debate seems to have converged on one main point: Brolyย has much greater potential, but a serious lack of experience. However, fans point out that if Brolyย hadย Dragon Ball Super‘s greatest senseiย (Whis), the situation would be very different.ย
Fans Win
The fanbase
โ Seรฑor Chargez (@ChargezTV) January 18, 2019
Okay, this right here.
โ Mike Wayland Rivera (@sfgiantsfanmike) January 19, 2019
No truer words spoken.
This fan speaks true: in the end, we the fans are the real winners of this entire debate, as the future ofย Dragon Ballย looks ripe with some epic potential battles that could be fought!ย
Who do you think would win the “Jirenย vs. Broly” fight? Let us know in the comments!ย
Dragon Ball Super: Brolyย is out now.ย Dragon Ball Superย currently airs its English dub on Adult Swim during the Toonami block Saturday evenings at 9:30 p.m. It is also available to stream on Funimation and Amazon Video. The Japanese language release is available to stream on FunimationNOW, VRV, and Crunchyroll.
